END OF SEASON POLL
1999-2000
NOTE: All SW19's comments are in
brown
WIMBLEDON
ON THE WEB
Do you ever look at the Official Wimbledon FC web site? :
| |
Yes |
88 % |
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Occasionally / No
|
5 % |
| |
Rarely |
2 % |
How
useful do you find it? :
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OK (or words to that effect) |
58 % |
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Not very |
36 % |
|
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Good |
5 % |
|
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Useless |
2 % |
YOUR COMMENTS:
Less useful than a chocolate fireguard!
Good for quotes, crap for accuracy and news
Good for official news
Sometimes very useful but most often there is'nt much to it.
Like the audio, rest is rubbish
Not as bad as you all make out
It is getting a lot better laely, with more news, rumours and interviews.
But to find the best rumours, info etc then I usually go to fans sites (SW19’s
Army, W&WW and It must be dons)
The fact that
most people do read the site is quite promising from the club's point of view.
Rather more disconcerting is that most people find it "all right" or worse.
The later entries suggests that the OS is getting better, though as in common
with many things involving WFC at the moment, there is still a lot of room
for improvement.
How
would you improve the Official site? :
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More news/general info/content |
19 % |
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Fan/somebody else should run it |
15 % |
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Online ticketing/more ticket info |
14 % |
OTHERS : More up to date, club should run it, more honesty, chat forum,
better design, better merchandise/e-commerce, more player/manager/owner interaction,
complete overhaul, quicker, none, unsure
YOUR
COMMENTS:
Have it run by someone who is able to speak the truth rather than what the
club want the fans to think (who really believes that is was Euell that set-up
a players meeting?).
Official sites don't work - full stop
The basic mistake is that the Official site is not part of the Club´s other
activities. Any Company with a sales turnover of the size of a Football Club
has a good working Information department. This includes all activities like
Web, Advertisments, Programme, PR, Press Releases and other Information and
external activities.
The club should get more involved in the content. They should use it as a
mouthpiece. Articles by BRG and Burton etc. Real transfer news, not just rumours.
Get an unofficial person to run it (say. a REPD/Steve Elson etc type...)
Have you got an hour?
Written by WFC not internet co. It’s got to have a sense of the club’s personality
and emotion that is entirely lacking at the moment. There is no sense of of
it being a club where members actually belong rather than are just paying
customers. Players/management comment and forum would be good, plus more insights
into behind the scenes goings-on at the club – how it’s run, insider gossip
etc; fans chatline, competitions etc; audit other premiership club sites like
Arsenal and Chelsea and steal their ideas and look at MUTV and see if we could
take some of their thinking and translate the principles to the web
Have it run by Marc Jones, Paul Raymond and yourself. Manic but informative,
a good read and chaos all rolled into one.
Like the Dicky Guy thing though
It is good to see that they have started to get more partisan & for example
not ignored the rubbish that Cort & Euell are coming out with
You may be interested
to know that WFC's OS is now either being run, or is just about to be run,
by NTL.
Would
you like to see such things as ticket purchasing for WFC games available on-line?
:
| |
Yes |
54 % |
| |
No |
44 % |
|
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Maybe |
2 % |
YOUR
COMMENTS:
It is a scandal that it does not exist today
Yes, but only if the buyer has to give season ticket details.
It may help some, but I would be reluctant to use it. As a season ticket
holder, when I buy additional tickets I want them to be as near as possible
to my seat, and this is easier to do when talking to someone
Yes, and OSC membership purchase too
No. There has been too much of the wrong people getting tickets for big
games as it is (i.e. Man U away etc).
If it would be of great aid to many then yes, say overseas Dons. Otherwise
it is difficult. It is not particularly reliable, and away fans can purchase
them just as easily in home sections. I am not a fan of the idea.
Can do it by e-mail. I guess you mean using HTML or Java.(yes,
I do) Be good, but I don’t know if I’d use it. I haven’t got a credit
card for the internet.
Yes, through official site, saves pressing 2 million different buttons while
trying to get through to an operator at the box office.
Huddersfield are about to embark
on on-line ticket purchasing. For those worried about tickets getting in
the wrong hands, how's this for an idea? Ensure purchasing could only be
done via having a special WFC "Internet membership" no. You would have to
apply on-line, free of course, but you must have a CG/ST number to do it.
I don't believe that there isn't technology for rejecting orders that don't
have valid membership no.
What
is your favourite non-fan-run/non-OS WFC-related web site? :
| |
None |
21 % |
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Sky Sports |
16 % |
|
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Teamtalk |
13 % |
OTHERS : Soccernet, F365, Yahoo sport, Newsnow,
Aker RGI, Opta, Google.Com, Carling, ESPN.Com, Soccer Update, most of the
majors, WSC, OTF.
YOUR
COMMENTS:
Sad git that I am (Aker RGI)
Is there one?? Most are just reconstituted Soccernet BOLLOX!!!
Sky Sports. It is a well organised and sensible websites - it rarely reports
on unsubstantiated rumours and frequently include good interviews. When the
rest of the press was quoting non-sensical comments from Fash, they came up
with good interviews from Alan Cork and Lawrie Sanchez and Harry Bassett .
They know what questions to ask and generally seem to want to present a balance
view.
Most people seem thoroughly unimpressed
by the general WFC offerings. A couple of people did put down that their favourites
were SW19 and W&WW, which I don't think was quite the question. Not
that I'm not flattered....
What
is your least favourite non-fan-run/non OS WFC-related web site? :
| |
None |
31 % |
| |
Teamtalk |
23 % |
|
|
Soccernet |
11 % |
OTHERS : Carlingnet, Sky, too many to mention, all
of them, Official Site, a few, BBC, F365
YOUR
COMMENTS:
Daily Mail wank (Soccernet)
Teamtalk, when they keep saying we're selling Ben Thatcher to spurs (oh
dear....)
Or have I got
the wrong end of the stick - it seems more indifference to general sites than
anything.
Not
including SW19's ARMY, what is your favourite WFC fan-run web site? :
(note: if you run your own web site, don't vote for yourself)
| |
Weird and Wonderful World |
85 % |
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It Must Be Dons |
11 % |
|
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WISA Chat / Louis Myles' site |
2 % |
YOUR COMMENTS:
Jonesy's work of genius
Mr Jones' site sodomises all who stands in his path. I am currently
arranging the award for him, however Ann Summers are out of butt plugs at
the moment :)
Do
you think there are too many fan-run WFC web sites about? :
| |
No |
81 % |
| |
Yes |
10 % |
|
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Don't know |
5 % |
|
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Just right number / possibly |
2 % |
YOUR COMMENTS:
They are all slightly different and offer good variety in the main
I tend to check what I consider to be "the best" but the rest are just repeating
stuff if you look at them too. But hey, so long as they enjoy producing them
Should be better linked….perhaps one common news bin that they can write for
No, but there are a few too many shit ones though
There are too many that have been left since last year and before without
updates. They are constantly linked to but have nothing there!
Nope. Its great to see so much passion. The knowledge gained form these sites
has hardened my support for the club and its supporters.
General thumbs
up for the HTML-clued up Womble.
If
you don't run a WFC web site, would you be considering to do one in the next
year or so? :
| |
No |
69 % |
| |
Yes |
18 % |
|
|
Possibly |
13 % |
YOUR COMMENTS:
Just doing one for the Cyprus Wombles
Concentrating on away games
No. I am shit at websites although I am quite good at advising people on the
regulatory side of running a website.(I shall leave you
to work out who said that.....)
I was going to do one but I gave up because there are a few established ones
such as SW19s Army, W&WW and It Must Be Dons so there would not be much for
me to add really.
This may seem a high number of
people who aren't going to do it, but most people seem not to have the time
or technical know-how to do it.
Additional
Comments on fan sites :
I thank all of the Webmasters for providing simple fans like me with the opportunity
to read, contribute, debate and expend our vitriol at these oases in a web
of shite!
I admire them all
How did we manage with just teletext?
Or write articles for one….perhaps with a proper fanzine…what happened to
‘Hoof’?? (back for the Tranmere game....tabloid size apparently.....SW19
is a regular contributor to it, and will be this time yet again)
The fan sites are good for finding out what the general feeling is amongst
the fans before and after the games and getting all the gossip on whats going
on.
Some of them look really cack.
Keep the debates going – Supporting WFC has improved because of them. I feel
as though I am involved in the club daily rather than just on match days
Too many slaggings by part time fans (although I'm not
too sure if this is referring to people who read the websites or the webmasters
themselves. Clarification sought)
Love ‘em. SW19, weirdandwonderful, itmustbedons and WISA chat have kept my
season going. I don’t have to feel the pain of relegation for 3 months, when
there’s all this activity going on, thanks.
Each one I visit is totally individual. Each has its own style and type of
jounalistic content. Considering that they are done in someone’s spare time
I am amazed at the speed and quality of the content. I work in the media and
believe me there are a loads of commercial sports sites that I deal with that
are total pants. I actually show clients and sales persons sites like SW19,
W&WW, Neils WFC, etc to show what surfers actually want. It’s a simple answer
– its all about content.
So it seems us
Webmasters are pretty popular guys then....
SW19's
ARMY
What do you like most about SW19's ARMY? :
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Content / opinions (attitude) |
26 % |
| |
Honesty |
19 % |
|
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Humour |
11 % |
OTHERS : Writing quality, updated regularly, interaction with other supporters,
conspiracy theories, design, nothing
YOUR
COMMENTS:
The long commentary articles. You are not making a site in order to exhibit
your ability to produce technical solutions. Your site gives a wide club information
at the same time as it reflects your own point of view. You concentrate on
that instead of a lot of statistics which you easily can find on the official
(and other) site(s).
He seems to understand that there are many overrated Wimbledon players
Says exactly the things I do about certain players, ex-managers & owners
Updated regularly, writer obviously cares for WFC
Bitter humour
The angst and the attempts to be analytical in situations where it is not
possible to do so.
To the same standard as weirdandwonderful only rougher. Both sites make me
laugh and I enjoy reading them. SW19 is the angry man’s website, but I like
the angry man. A lot of what makes him angry, makes me angry, and even when
it doesn’t I can see where he’s coming from.
The journalistic writing style and opinions of your goodself. Its candid,
non abusive, but strong minded with evidence to back up beliefs – perfect
journalism.
What
do you dislike most about SW19's ARMY? :
| |
Nothing |
16 % |
| |
Slow loading / design / java (or tickatape) / too OTT |
10 % |
|
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Too long winded or "heavy" |
6 % |
OTHERS : Too optimistic, too pro-Drillo or Norwegians, use of abbreviations,
Morden, not on any search engines, this poll, too much swearing, too obsessed
with new ground, not enough rumours or gossip, What If??, intolerant, spelling,
too little guestbook traffic, web address too difficult, the name, no pictures
of Bjork, intruding non-political correctness
YOUR COMMENTS:
Have you not heard of the paragraph tag!!! (I use the
BR tag. Does that count?)
The bits which were written by Egil Olsen’s deranged mother. And opinions
with which I don’t agree
YOUR PATHETIC BIASE TOWARDS EGIL AND THE REST OF THE NORGES, WHEN IT WAS QUITE
CLEAR FROM DAY ONE THAT THEIR HEARTS WEREN’T WITH THE DONS AND YOUR CONSTANT
SLAGGING OF PLAYERS WHO ARE TRUE DONS THRU AND THRU
The owner sometimes seems to have a (not so hidden) hidden agenda. If you
don’t happen to agree with it, it can make it quite heavy reading.
When you wish evil on people.eg. death. Each to their own but I don’t like
it. (do you think Eminem really means it when he raps
about raping his own mother?)
I've killed the java applet a couple of
months ago. Can't do much about the speed of it, and like I say, my opinions
are my opinions and my opinions only. Though I'm glad that the majority feel
there's nowt wrong with SW19. And no, I don't understand why someone put down
"Morden" either.
What
improvements would you make to SW19's ARMY? :
| |
Better design |
24 % |
| |
None |
16 % |
|
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Guest articles from club insiders / chat room / more humour
|
5 % |
OTHERS : more sounds, more quizzes, more photos, mailing list, get rid
of What If??, make it quicker, more polls, get rid of front page, guestbook
more like Jonesy's, shut it down, more away stuff, date your updates better,
change the name, more pictures of Bjork, more updates, more rants
YOUR
COMMENTS:
Drawing and designing probably is not that REPD bloke's strong point.
All the above
has been noted. Bearing in mind this is a one-man operation 99% of the time,
the design will probably stay as it is until I learn how to draw. I think
there are too many underutilised chatrooms about anyway, IMO. Working on more
sounds (if anyone can direct me to any more, I'll be most grateful), and I'm
not too sure if Bjork is right for this fanzine.
What
is your favourite section in SW19's ARMY? :
| |
News |
58 % |
| |
Guestbook / articles |
12 % |
|
|
Odds / JFEA |
5 % |
OTHERS : Sights and Sounds, all of it, front page, regulars, exit
YOUR
COMMENTS:
News. It's not really news. It's 1/10 news and 9/10 angst/rants/distrust of
the whole world. Nice.
Personally, I'm glad News won because
it's the bit which takes up most time :) I get the feeling that the JFEA will
have to make a comeback to stop mutiny. Suitable name change is required (something
like the Ian Selley right boot).
Do
you find SW19's ARMY useful?:
| |
Yes |
88 % |
| |
No |
10 % |
|
|
Sometimes |
2 % |
YOUR COMMENTS:
more reliable than Ceefax.
The news I gather from all of the sites is useful yes, but I can rarely tel
you who’s site I got it off first…they all have similar news really…the opimions
occasionally make you go, ‘yeah, I never thought of it like that though’
No, but I didn’t think it was intended to be
Not useful, just interesting
How do
you compare SW19's ARMY to other fan-run websites?
| |
Favourably |
90 % |
| |
Not favourably |
6 % |
|
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Can't compare |
4 % |
YOUR COMMENTS:
It’s no HTML masterpiece, but great content is what it is ultimately all about
It’s different on the whole, it’s more of a rant
Joint best with W&WW
I like this site just for it’s views…..that’s the way it should stay
Poor
You can't compare an apple to an orange unless you do so by adopting some
ridiculous criteria.(this was the same person who said
that I was trying to be analyitical in situations where it's impossible to
be analytical)
Better than most. WWW edges it just because more people use the guest book,
though your articles are better
Additional
Comments on SW19's ARMY :
Good job, keeping taking the piss out of wanky agents and players
Probably the top site for all round information. W&WW has the best GB (especially
for non footy talk!) but a few iffy sections! Reservoir Dons has some cracking
sections, but SW19’s ARMY is the most consistent
I just wish we were actually back in SW19
Nice One! Try and doing some leafleting as well, there's a lot of lazy fans
I know that don't know you exist and can't be arsed trying to find you, a
piece of paper may get them into action.
Keep it going and get it registered properly…….try and get a way to make some
money on it……..(I know you do it for love)…..but it must be worth a bash.
The sites and sounds section again suffers from the long wait for downloads.
When you consider that this is a UK site general download time should be improved….it’s
a quick and easy thing to do…..and quality doesn’t suffer when the right tools
are used. (if somebody could tell me how to find these
right tools, let me know)
You undermine your generally sensible views and observations with an obsessive
fixation on the ground which results in you going over old ground time and
time again.
GET A LIFE AND STOP LICKING THE ARSE OF BRG
What you are doing is important for wombles, so keep on keeping on
The new contribution of articles by different people is good.
Don’t change the style of reporting. It is honestly one of the two sites I
visit every day religiously, and has help inspire me to try and my own.
Good, quality site that adds humour to news and stories. Good to see that
you will be adding pictures of the training ground as it is being built.
"Keep up the good
work" seems to be the order of the day here......
